what can you tell us? >> well, i can tell you that i have this from multiple, highly reliable sources. you know, she wrote this book about him, which was more of a valentine to him. people, it had been rumored that something was going on between the two of them for some time. i never believed it. people who knew him better than i did never believed it. i've always viewed him as a very straight arrow. >> i had the same impression. a man who walked the walk and talked the talk. and fran, you also know him very well. is this, this specific affair, this really the reason that he is resigning? >> yeah, i've heard nothing to suggest there's any other reason. i think it is in fact related to the allegations of the extramarital affair and look, i think when you look at the letter he wrote, he's taken personal responsibility. he's hold, i think he's holding himself accountable. there is the question of timing, right? we've just had the election. why now? how long has the investigation been going on because of cours